Posts by Introvert 2

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So sick of the abuse...

by iwasblind in

i am still serving as an elder but just hanging in there.

i think their quandry is that they don't see me out in the field, but when they need encouragement and decent prayer they come to me.. i just got off the phone to this poor sister who i have only met twice.

she is not even in my congregation (her sister is).

Introvert 2

I also focussed on just being a kind and caring appointed man...someone people could just talk to and feel supported.

I was blatantly told by elders that I was being "permissive and an apologist" by not enforcing the strict regurgitated society responses....

I focussed on helping people build their self esteem and confidence.

It became impossible to continue to fade while still remaining appointed and having to play the games....

The FEAR, OBLIGATION and GUILT, that the organisation binds on the shoulders of the flock is deplorable. It is certainly NOT kindly as Jesus recommended.

Read something earlier today and the societies equivalent of trinity is dedication doctrine. Is cause for competition between brothers and the harmful judgment that goes along with it. Are you living up to your dedication ? Never sat right with me now I know why, it's blatantly bogus. For those that still believe it's about baptism and not 'dedication' which is not even found in the bible. As the author put it it has to be argued in just like the trinity.

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Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

by sir82 in

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heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

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@ LisaRose...

I think I read that story... it was an eye-opener, yet unsurprising at the same time.

I think it came from Randy's Freeminds the Bethel Chronicles. If I recall a brother that founded a graphics ware company had designed an airbrush that held patents etc. Pretty sharp guy and good businessman. When the higher ups at Bethel keyed in to what he could offer he was invited there and given a tour as well as a few weeks room and board to set up the art department with his latest airbrush kits, all donated free of charge to the society's in house art dept. He also made it a point to tell one of the heavies there that his department was mostly filled my incompetents and that there was in fighting, no team spirit and would not be tolerated in the real world. He then got the standard they are appointed on spiritual qualities not know how or ability..

Was there that I read out about a piece of equipment that was worth a few hundred grand ( like 1/2 to 3/4M ) and no one knew how to operate it. Interesting read, really opened my eyes to what I had been suspecting.

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Another great video of someone waking up!!! Using our "thinking mind"

by Olivia Wilde in

i love the fact what he said about reading crises of conscious: if you read that book as a jw and still think the wt has the truth, something is wrong with you....the song played at the end is simply classic and very appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwvditiopv4&list=llz1w0ll081jjiycjb298pow.

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Introvert 2

Very good video and yes on COC and ISOCF was instrumental in deprogramming myself

Cool Smiths song, love the brit stuff !

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Bethel Layoff Notices arrive under Bethellite doors

by Quarterback in

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just heard from a reliable source that some at the canadian branch have received their lay-off notices under their doors at bethel.

don't know what the letter looks like.

probably something like, " the tribe has spoken, bring us your torches"

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haha Wifi !!!!!!!!

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Are the GB very intelligent men with higher than average IQ? Or are they stupid men who were put in their position by sheer “LUCK”

by John Aquila in

are the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.

(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.

ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.

Introvert 2

For most of the WT history someone on the GB had a very active roll in producing content. Russel, Rutherford, Fred Franz, Ray Franz were all prolific writers of propaganda content.

I am not aware of any GB members today who are as actively involved in producing content and a primary reason for the recycled food and dumb down content IMO.

For this reason I say they are dumber then previous members.

For what they lack in writing ability and producing new spiritual content, they more than make up for in shrewedness.

Totally agree GB1 had some respectability, as in Grandfatherly. The new bunch are like used car salesmen. Anyhow now that TTATT is out it's a done deal their glory years are over thanks to the abundant information that's out there on WT history.

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My letter to Bethel about the flood

by Cornbread in

i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

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I like you Morph, your OK. Gave you an up ! When you get old like me you don't care what people think hahah !! It's all about looking at both sides, I'm just getting started ( as you can tell ) Peace out !

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My letter to Bethel about the flood

by Cornbread in

i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

Introvert 2

Hey Brendan, cool another local Montreal boy ! We may of even been in the same assemblies, I was in a cong up north, even did a stint in French for a while.

For a differing point of view on the flood look up Walt Brown's Hydroplate theory. Although no longer a GB follower I'm still a believer in scripture as a few of us here happen to be.

Hope it works out for you man.

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Are the GB very intelligent men with higher than average IQ? Or are they stupid men who were put in their position by sheer “LUCK”

by John Aquila in

are the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.

(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.

ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.

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Company men

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I hope the letter about deleting the Theocratic school is true.

by John Aquila in

yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.

three of them were ministerial servants.

all of them are from the spanish congregation.

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I once texted a Mexican friend of mine that I was going over to the Bible Students and that I was planning on DA'ing. I then got a volley of texts back on FDS and light getting brighter plus Math 24:14 on preaching. The poor guy thinks he has it all figured out. This coming from someone with a college degree vs myself the tradesman. His whole family works for him, TTATT would be devastating to him. I no longer keep in touch and hope he spread the rumor as to my being 'apostate' Oh and many come from Catholic backgrounds rank with superstition.

On edit : Rays works are available online in many languages now.

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Need some links to pro-jw sites that mention, bethel lay offs and the leaked letter. thanks

by joe134cd in

hi everyone i need some links to pro-jw sites that mention the letter to be read out and also about the bethel lay offs .

can be face book or anything as long as it's for jehovahs kingdom, but mentions those 2 things.

thanks guys.

Introvert 2

The Kool-Aid flows well on JW talk.